Whenever I get to the Coushatta for a little NL action, I have a little time to kill while the waiting list either whittles down or gets big enough to open a new table. Unfortunately, that makes it easy for me to give in to my gambling urges.
Slots do nothing for me. I know Grubby loves one-armed bandits, but I just can't seem to get much excitement out of them. The blackjack tables are okay, but I lose too much there, despite what the book says. Roulette is a money pit (as much as I'd like to play it!). And Pai Gow poker is fine at 3am when I don't have to think, but that's about it.
That means it's on to the craps table. And I think I've developed a system that keeps my head above water no matter how long I play. Sure, you won't get rich, but you'll walk away ahead!
It all starts with the table. First I'll tell you what to ignore. Ignore all of those boxes to the left (Hardaways, One Roll Bets, Horn Bet, etc.). Those are sucker bets. Those little C-E circles don't mean a whole lot either. And you're better off pretending the "Field" and "Big 6-8" areas don't exist either.
So what does that leave? Well, you've got the Pass Line and Don't Pass Bar and you've got the Come and the Don't Come Bar. You also have those numbers up top, but I'd stay away from the place bets.
When I play, I play "wrong." That means I'm betting against the shooter. If you're going to play this way, you need to do so quietly. Loudly rooting against everyone else is a quick way to get a right cross to your temple. Here's how it works:
Place a bet on the Don't Pass Bar. I play either the $5 or $10 tables. So let's say I put $5 on the Don't Pass Bar. The shooter throws the dice and one of four things happens; you win, you lose, you push or the point is set.
You win $5 when a 2 or a 3 or is rolled. You lose your $5 bet when a 7 or 11 is rolled. You push when a 12 is rolled. And any other number sets the point (that's those numbers up at the top, the black "Off" disk will flip over and become the white "On" disk and get placed on a number).
So let's say the shooter rolls a 9. You've bet "Don't Pass" so that means you win if $5 if the shooter rolls a 7 before again rolling a 9. None of the other numbers affect you at all. If a 9 comes first, you lose your $5 bet.
However, the real money comes when you lay odds. You see, you're at a great advantage to win your $5 bet because a 7 is much more common than a 9. That means you want to maximize your winnings. When you lay odds on a 9, you get paid $2 for every $3 you bet (same thing for the 5). For example, bet $15 and win $10 or bet $30 and win $20. That's a bet that you'll make after the point is set that's in addition to your "Don't Pass" bet (put the money behind your initial bet).
If you want to press your luck, you can also bet the "Don't Come Bar." It acts exactly like the "Don't Pass Bar" on subsequent rolls. If the 9 is the point, you bet the "Don't Come," and the next roll is a 4, your "Don't Come" bet will be moved to the square with the 4. You can again lay odds, and once again, you win if a 7 is rolled before a 4.
With the 4, however, you have to bet $2 to win $1 when you lay odds. So if you bet $20 you win $10 and if you bet $30 you win $15. Again, it's the same payoff for the 10.
When it's the 6 or the 8, you have to lay $6 to win $5. So for a $30 bet, you can win $25.
See how simple it is?
Generally, I'll bet the "Don't Pass." If a 10 or a 4 is the point, I'll take heavy odds, maybe laying as much as $60. If a 5 or a 9 is the point, I'll take solid odds, maybe laying $45 or $30. If a 6 or an 8 is the point, I won't take odds. Occasionally, I'll also bet the "Don't Come," but only if I'm on a good run. If a hot shooter steps up (hitting 2 points), I won't play until the dice move.
Again, you won't get rich playing this way, but I've figured out it's a pretty solid system for making money while having a little fun at the craps table!

CJ! You sinner, don't you know that betting "wrong" is bad karma? Ask Bob, next time we're at the tables I'll show you the three point molly. You'll never go back to the don't pass line.
Posted by: hdouble at March 12, 2005 12:13 AMCraps is hard. The only time it's NOT hard is when I've had about 8 beers and someone else is betting for me.
Posted by: laceratedsky at March 12, 2005 12:13 PMI'm with Hank. Maybe we'll have to play each over 2 or 12 beers and put both theories to the test. I do think that playing with the shooters has the advantage of allowing for drunken rowdy celebrations, less ribbing from the peanut gallery, and more boisterous "Press it KenNETHS!"
Posted by: Bob at March 13, 2005 10:25 AMYou should try the good old Do/Don't system. Works well without getting too much money out there.
Posted by: StB at March 13, 2005 5:19 PMI play the "wrong" way, establishing three points and backing all my Don't Bets with full, maximum odds bets. I haven't found any other systems to my liking, and every new "Super System" style craps book uses flawed logic, in my opinion (stuff like rolling styles, hot shooters, and anything else is pseudo-science). Assuming a 7 is going to hit approx. once every 6 rolls, you can often get all three points established and backed and then watch that magical 7 come up. Of course, the pitfalls are a hot shooter who wipes the board out and the angry "Right" players who are ready to kick your ass when you're whooping it up as their chips are being pulled into the middle. I stop with three points a shooter, because for some odd reason, certain shooters just can't seem to roll a seven. This lesson was learned as some first time roller chick hit 5 9 times before a seven hit the table. I almost got kicked out of the casino for excessive use of the fuck word. I'd be interested in the "Three Roll mollie" system, though and would attempt an experiment if it's merited.
Posted by: Tully Moxness at March 14, 2005 5:55 PMJust back from Vegas. I had a blast at the craps tables. The wife and I have a system for drinking and making lots of noise. We had 4.5 hours on one table for 200.00 and 6 hours on another table for 100.00 and we drank like fish! I know it's not making money but it was fun and those drinks are not cheap if you are paying for them.
Posted by: Randy at May 9, 2008 11:53 AMI was once like you and always bet don't pass.
Being 6' and wide I can get away with small celebrations.
Don't Pass only has a .02% edge on betting pass because the 12 push does matter.
Backing up bet from either side is a wash because it is true odds.
Come to the light and experience the true joy of a hot shooter.
Posted by: bayne at May 21, 2008 5:55 PM